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troton - 23.04.2006, 22:23 Uhr
Titel: Xgl and Kanotix?

Anybody knows how to install xgl in kanotix? I think with xorg 7.0 it's possible, any idea?
cheers

devil - 23.04.2006, 22:52 Uhr
Titel: Xgl and Kanotix?

best wait ´till it´ll appear in Sid.
on a test install you could try these rpm´s:
http://sonique54.free.fr/xgl/xgl.htm

greetz
devil

rich.bradshaw - 23.04.2006, 22:58 Uhr
Titel: Xgl and Kanotix?

let us know how it goes!

troton - 23.04.2006, 23:01 Uhr
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Yeah, better to wait to sid!!! I don't want to mess up my kanotix box with files out of the repos.... but if anybody want to experiment.... Smilie

thnx
cheers

jackiebrown - 24.04.2006, 06:29 Uhr
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I just tried it and ruined my whole xserver.
Had to reinstall. I think I will wait for it to hit the debian repos.

eco2geek - 25.04.2006, 07:04 Uhr
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Just installed Suse 10.1 RC2 on a scratch partition in order to play with Xgl. (It will come as no surprise to learn that this version of Suse is still buggy. Xgl seems to work fine.)

xserver-xgl and compiz are both in the "Packages being worked on" list, so hopefully it won't be too much longer until Kano can write a script to automagically configure it. Winken

maslota - 02.05.2006, 15:36 Uhr
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I used sonique instructions and I managed to work it.
I had a problem with "could not open default font 'fixed'" error, but when I added parameter:

Code:

-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc

to Xgl command, it just worked.
My system:
Videocard: nVidia NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x
kanotix 2006-easter-rc2

Crust - 02.05.2006, 16:35 Uhr
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maslota, have you tried it with kde?

maslota - 02.05.2006, 21:27 Uhr
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Yes, I did. It worked.

Crust - 02.05.2006, 21:59 Uhr
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maslota,

That screenshot looks really nice.
I want to use xgl and not necessarily Compiz to speed up window rendering. I've played around with xgl on other Linux distros and noticed a significant gain in speed.

If it isn't too much trouble to you, could you post:
a) Any bugs or instability when using xgl with kde. Is it stable enough with kde for everyday use? Are the video playback bugs fixed?
b) What you did (other than Sonique's instructions) to get it working with kde.
c) Any anticipated problems with a Radeon 9700 card?

Thank you very much.

-Crust

maslota - 02.05.2006, 22:23 Uhr
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a) None. I did it on my testing partition 2 days ago. I haven't played with it long enough to check it good.
b) I added '-fp' parameter to Xgl command. I think installation of gnome is not necessarily, but I didn't want to take a risk Smilie

c) I've read a lot about installation of xgl and I've noticed that many ATI users haven't been lucky

rich.bradshaw - 02.05.2006, 22:27 Uhr
Titel:

Am I correct in thinking that you pretty much have to have either a Nvidia or Ati card? I have integrated graphics - I assume they won't work, as I still can't get OpenGL working!

jackiebrown - 03.05.2006, 01:24 Uhr
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maslota hat folgendes geschrieben::

I used sonique instructions and I managed to work it.
I had a problem with "could not open default font 'fixed'" error, but when I added parameter:

Code:

-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc

to Xgl command, it just worked.
My system:
Videocard: nVidia NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x
kanotix 2006-easter-rc2

32-bit or 64-bit

maslota - 03.05.2006, 09:05 Uhr
Titel:

jackiebrown hat folgendes geschrieben::

maslota hat folgendes geschrieben::

I used sonique instructions and I managed to work it.
I had a problem with "could not open default font 'fixed'" error, but when I added parameter:

Code:

-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc

to Xgl command, it just worked.
My system:
Videocard: nVidia NV18 [GeForce4 MX 4000 AGP 8x
kanotix 2006-easter-rc2

32-bit or 64-bit

32-bit.

gardyloo - 07.05.2006, 00:46 Uhr
Titel: Very nearly there

I've followed sonique's instructions, and the hint to use

Code:

-fp /usr/share/X11/fonts/misc

My fonts are in /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc/ instead, so I used

Code:

-fp /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc

Gnome ( I prefer KDE or others, but whatever) seems to start OK, but soon does a sort of half-crash, where I can open folders, but right-clicking or anything like that doesn't work. Window borders disappear, as do the desktop menus. Obviously, that's unworkable. Killing the xserver at that point either gets me a kernel panic, or boots me back to the command line, with error messages to the effect of GLib-CRITICAL **: g_key_file_add_group: assertion `g_key_file_lookup_group_node (key_file, group_name) == NULL' failed and fun things like that (all gtk errors).

However, this is farther than I've gotten before. Thanks, guys!

dpdt1 - 06.06.2006, 22:00 Uhr
Titel: RE: Very nearly there

just saw this how-to for sid in amd64 debian list and i thought it might be interesting :

http://blue.dyn-o-saur.com/debianxgl/de ... howto.html

haven't tried yet but probably will, anyday now..

dpdt1 - 25.09.2006, 20:58 Uhr
Titel: RE: Very nearly there

well the above link isn't working anymore and what's more, i wasn't able to make it happen, anyway.

so today, as i was looking for a script, i saw http://kanotix.com/files/install-compiz.sh ,
but this notice "don't try with fglrx driver installed!" made me stop before testing anything.
so has this been tested succesfully by anyone?
and when can we expect for fglrx driver to also work with? (i guess, this depends on ati, most probably?)
plus, first xgl repo, says all packages are alien-made.. is this really advisable?

thanks,
Dimitris.

P.S i understand it's all still experimental software. just wondering.

mzilikazi - 26.09.2006, 00:33 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Very nearly there

dpdt1 hat folgendes geschrieben::

so has this been tested succesfully by anyone?

I tried it on my GeForce FX 5600XT - it worked fine with KDE & Gnome. Gnome will require you editing a GDM startup script. There are a few ways you could do it. No idea about ATI. If you want to test it you should probably dedicate a spare partition to a fresh install of the latest RC and try it there. There are some limitaions when using Xgl/compiz.

If you use GDM & Gnome, after runnig the install-compiz script you need to edit 1 file.

Code:

gedit /etc/gdm/gdm.conf

Add the following [servers]section:

Code:

[servers]

0=Xgl 

[server-Xgl]

name=Xgl server 

command=/usr/bin/Xgl :0 -fp /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc -fullscreen -ac -accel glx:pbuffer -accel xv:fbo 

flexible=true

Then add startup-compiz.py to your ~/.gnome2/session-manual

Code:

echo startup-compiz.py >> ~/.gnome2/session-manual

CTRL+ALT+F1

Code:

#/etc/init.d/gdm restart

Kano - 26.09.2006, 03:42 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Now the install-compiz.sh script works in live mode too, as well as install-nvidia-debian.sh does or the fixed install-fglrx-debian.sh one. fglrx was very tricky to support, but now it works.

zulu9 - 26.09.2006, 03:50 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

great work kano! Sehr glücklich

I will try it with liveCD and on a box with fglrx soon. On my nvidia-box the script worked well. Everythings wobbling now Winken

jbs1136 - 26.09.2006, 04:45 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Interesting to see how this turns out. I have been wanting to try it but couldn't get it to work. SUSE was able to recognize half my hardware so I dumped. Didn't work right anyway. I have an ATI x1600 Pro with 512megs ram on board which should handle it but everywhere I look I see it is only for nVidia.

John

bushit - 26.09.2006, 16:39 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

great work kano, I want to test your script with my ATI 9800 Pro and I hope not to ruin my nice system, however, I am not sure, if it works with the Easter Edition too. I do not want to provoke a crash...

bushit

zulu9 - 26.09.2006, 17:12 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

I tried it on a cebit-edtion (pre Easter) with new kernel, new nvidia beta-driver and current dist-upgrade and it worked well.

DeepDayze - 26.09.2006, 17:39 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

bushit hat folgendes geschrieben::

Just make a backup before you install xgl/compiz Winken

Kano - 26.09.2006, 18:09 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

@jbs1136

it definitely WORKS with fglrx and 2006-01 RC3.

bushit - 26.09.2006, 18:12 Uhr
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I tried it and I was really surprised. It works properly beside my keyboardlayout and OpenGL. I can´t start e.g. Americas Army

Code:

Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".

Cheat protection disabled

Either GL_EXT_bgra or glDrawRangeElements not supported- bailing out.

Moreover, the fglrx-controlis confused.

Code:

Driver does not provide the FireGL X11 extensions!

Well I tried it and it is really nice, but still buggy. We will see how future versions will be...
Here are some screenshots:

bushit

josk - 26.09.2006, 21:04 Uhr
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I tested with fglrx driver and it works. Here is few tips to see effects. Nothing so fancy but still...

RAIN - shift+f9
CUBE- ctrl+shift+arrow left or right
APPLICATION SELECTOR - alt+tab
APPLICATION OPACITY - alt + mouse wheel
APPLICATION LIGHTNESS - shift + mouse wheel
ARRANGE AND VIEW ALL WINDOWS - Moving the pointer to the top right screen corner turns on or off; clicking a window will zoom
SWITCH DESKTOPS ON CUBE WITH ACTIVE WINDOW FOLLOWING - Ctrl + Shift + Alt + Left/Right Arrow
ZOOM IN OR OUT - super key + mouse wheel

If the Windows or Super key is not working in KDE then add the following to your xorg.conf file under the section InputDevice for Keyboard

Option "XkbOptions" "altwin:super_win"

So it should looks like this

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "altwin:super_win"
EndSection

op4latino - 27.09.2006, 03:42 Uhr
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It worked fine with my 128MB ATI 9600 PRO in 2006-01 RC3 live mode single head. I'll try double head right now

jbs1136 - 27.09.2006, 23:06 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Kano hat folgendes geschrieben::

@jbs1136

it definitely WORKS with fglrx and 2006-01 RC3.

Thanks, it will probably be a couple of days before I get to try it. Also, thanks to you and the others for getting me away from MS. Finally, a linux that I can run and understand somewhat and everything works. The helping people here are great. Thanks for your hard work, it is appreciated.

Danke Schon

John

piper - 28.09.2006, 04:14 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Works excellent with ATI All-in-Wonder 9800 Pro Smilie

BenGoodrich - 29.09.2006, 06:14 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Kano hat folgendes geschrieben::

Now the install-compiz.sh script works in live mode too

One trouble report with the install-compiz.sh script and the RC3 liveCD on a Thinkpad with an Intel 915GM chipset. Script finishes and relaunches KDE but after a few seconds it kicks me back into terminal mode as if I hit Control + Alt + F1 again. IRC suggested running script on a test system with a HD install. Will try that later and report back.

Ben

Mrs Armatage - 29.09.2006, 10:27 Uhr
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Tried it in live-mode on a Toshiba-Laptop with Radeon Mobilitiy 7000 IGP and it works - but I wonder whether the "wobblely desktop" is what I really want? Thanks for the script and the work behind it.
UB

Kano - 29.09.2006, 16:09 Uhr
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@BenGoodrich

maybe you need

xmodule=i810

cheatcode (vesa might be detected).

jbs1136 - 29.09.2006, 19:11 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Okay, I am officially very impressed.

Kano, yes it does definitely work!! Great work.

josk, thanks for your post. I had run the script and logged back in in kde. Okay, what now. I remembered your post and tried some of your commands. Blew me away. One question though, what is super-key? Yes, I am new. I use kde if that is important.

Piper, thanks again for showing me this great distro!!

John

devil - 29.09.2006, 19:33 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

superkey is also known as win-key

greetz
devil

piper - 29.09.2006, 20:12 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

jbs1136 hat folgendes geschrieben::

John

Your very Welcome !! Smilie

jackiebrown - 30.09.2006, 02:02 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

compiz hit the official Debian repos today. (Still no xgl)

jbs1136 - 30.09.2006, 04:52 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

devil,

Thanks, learn something new everytime I come here.

John

BenGoodrich - 30.09.2006, 06:26 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

BenGoodrich hat folgendes geschrieben::

Kano hat folgendes geschrieben::

Now the install-compiz.sh script works in live mode too

Kano's subsequent suggestion to boot the CD with cheatcode xmodule=i810 fixed my problem with liveCD mode.

Thanks,
Ben

jbs1136 - 30.09.2006, 07:41 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

The install worked great and I have played with the themes and the preferences. My only problem so far is that my numberpad isn't working. I tried tying in a password and discovered that the numbers don't show up, I have to use the numbers above the keys.

John

piper - 30.09.2006, 14:53 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

Yes, I noticed that too after playing around with it yesterday and it is still enabled in control center, I think it disable's it somehow for keyboard shortcuts and such

Kano - 30.09.2006, 16:27 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

With AIGLX the keyboard still works. That's a problem with Xgl. Just ATI has no support for AIGLX.

jbs1136 - 30.09.2006, 20:56 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

OK, thanks, I can live with that. Just have to get use to the other numbers. Funny that the cursor buttons on the number pad still work.

John

eco2geek - 01.10.2006, 22:48 Uhr
Titel: FYI, "install-compiz-sh -u" uninstalls Gnome

Kano's XGL installation script, "install-compiz.sh", has a "-u" switch that allows you to uninstall it. It's written for a stock installation of Kanotix 2006-01-RCx (or for when running from the live CD with unionfs), which doesn't include Gnome.

The uninstallation will return Kanotix to its previous state. (In other words, the script is designed to work this way.)

Which means, if you're running a hard disk install, and you had Gnome installed before you installed XGL using Kano's script, and then use Kano's script to uninstall XGL, a bunch of essential Gnome packages will get nuked, and you won't be able to run Gnome until you reinstall them.

lupin - 04.10.2006, 01:39 Uhr
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I have installed XGL + Compiz on my laptop with 2006 RC3.. I found it pretty unusable, because the touchpad left button is mapped as right click, while the right button has zoom functionality.. I tried out cheking few options (xgl, ksynaptics,ControlPanel -> Mouse), but with no result.

Anybody with the same problem? Suggestions? Weinen

UncleDeadley - 04.10.2006, 17:18 Uhr
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Seems to work OK here, mostly. Alt and Ctr keys on right side of keyboard don't seem to function, but left side does. Anyone experience that before? Right clicking on the compiz cube and choosing kwin got me back to what I was used to, but the system lagged really badly- even typing. Choose compiz again and things work smoothly again.

Have an ATI MR9600 w/ fglrx installed by kano's script, last d-u was two weeks ago.

Edit: so now how do I re-enable ctr+1 taking me to desktop 1 and so forth?

jbs1136 - 07.10.2006, 05:27 Uhr
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Thought I would add this in. I discovered that if I turned the num lock off the keys worked. With it on they wouldn't. Works backward for some reason.

Have just installed 2006-1 RC4 and am trying to get compiz working again. I couldn't get all of the errors but it had something to do with beryl. I think that is the new name of a branch. Has anyone got it working with RC4?

John

piper - 07.10.2006, 18:07 Uhr
Titel:

Compiz (script) don't work anymore as far as I know (not 100% positive)

beryl "aiglx" is the "new one" which I myself cannot get to work with my ATI for more than 10 minutes before it reboots my computer Traurig

UncleDeadley - 08.10.2006, 01:02 Uhr
Titel:

Wow, that was a fast death. I had it mostly working just three days ago, but really couldn't live with the lack of 2 keys and no ctr-f1 through f4 to flip from desktop to desktop.

bobdawn - 08.10.2006, 01:34 Uhr
Titel:

UncleDeadley hat folgendes geschrieben::

Wow, that was a fast death. I had it mostly working just three days ago, but really couldn't live with the lack of 2 keys and no ctr-f1 through f4 to flip from desktop to desktop.

What's the problem with Ctrl-Alt-(Left or Right Arrow)?

@jens - 08.10.2006, 09:31 Uhr
Titel:

jbs1136 hat folgendes geschrieben::

Yes, works fine here (NVidia FX 5500/P4 2 Ghz/512 megs DDR1).
1. add to your sources list: deb http://kanotixguide.org/debian sid main contrib non-free

2. # update-scripts-kanotix.sh
# apt-get update
# apt-get install beryl
# apt-get install libxcomposite1
# chvt 1

3. login as root
# install-nvidia-debian.sh -c

After login to KDE, open a console and then as user:
$ beryl-manager

Have fun!
@jens

jbs1136 - 08.10.2006, 15:13 Uhr
Titel:

@jens,

Thanks for the help but I have an ATI card.

John

added: When I added the kanotixguide.org line and did the update I got this:

W: GPG error: http://kanotixguide.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D278AE91D4E9F186

How do I get the key for this?

jbs

piper - 08.10.2006, 16:10 Uhr
Titel:

John do

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys D278AE91D4E9F186 (or just the last 8 D4E9F186) hit enter then

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg (hit enter) then

apt-get update

This "might" (beryl) work for you, doing a google, some people with ati can get this to work, although no where near as good as nvidia.

You can try or just wait till better ATI support comes along Winken

datebro - 08.10.2006, 16:37 Uhr
Titel:

apt-get install kanotixguide-keyring should also solve the issue with the GPG-error. To beryl whith ATI Ican't say anything, i always preferred Vidocards with functional drivers. (in early win95-times a specialist advised me, which not to buy Winken

)

Gruß
Datebro

piper - 08.10.2006, 17:16 Uhr
Titel:

Well, fucntional to me is a very nice PVR (dual-boot) which nv does not have, not even with windows

jackiebrown - 10.10.2006, 00:41 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly there

jackiebrown hat folgendes geschrieben::

compiz hit the official Debian repos today. (Still no xgl)

Kano - or anybody - how did you get it so that you still had the title bars using compix?

I have it working in Debian Sid but not title bars which means I can resize or move windows.

I get it to work by running compiz --replace in a terminal

jbs1136 - 10.10.2006, 04:56 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly ther

@jens, Thanks, it is up and running. I did something wrong the first time, but will probably never know what. Anyway, it works now. Thanks.

Piper, thanks again Smilie

. I seem to have a problem with the keys. How do you know what to put in when they don't work? When I loaded the RC4 and ran apt-get update I had to dig out an old post from you that told me what to do to get the keys. Is there something I should be doing and am missing.

John

piper - 10.10.2006, 16:40 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly ther

Hi John, just keep these 2 in mind or (write down) whenever you get a W: GPG error

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys

and

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg

a package will give you the key it is missing in example

W: GPG error: http://kanotixguide.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY D278AE91D4E9F186

So then you can just do

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys D278AE91D4E9F186 (enter)

or

gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys D4E9F186 (last 8,enter)

then add

apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg (hit enter) then

apt-get update (everything should be fine Smilie

)

I hope that wasn't to confusing Winken

Some additional keyservers:

keyring.debian.org
pgp.mit.edu
pgpkeys.pgp.net
wwkeys.uk.pgp.net
wwwkeys.pgp.net

jbs1136 - 13.10.2006, 00:33 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Very nearly ther

Piper,

Thanks for the info. Not confusing. I have it copied down for future use. Sorry I took so long to respond. I was playing around with the hdd from my tivo and screwed something up. Ended up having to reinstall kanotix. Long story. In bios I had set the hdd boot priority to my sata drive where I had vista. I dumped vista, reformatted that partition. I forgot about this. Something happened when I reconnected my ide hdd and rebooted. No system disk. I panicked and reinstalled kanotix. Didn't work. Several hours later I found what I had done but by this time I had reinstalled it twice and it still didn't work. Got the bios straight and am reinstalling now. These senior moments are killing me Smilie

.

Later,

John

eco2geek - 14.10.2006, 22:47 Uhr
Titel: Kano's compiz script still works

I tried using Beryl/AIGLX on my laptop, which has an ATI Radeon Xpress 200M chipset, and it definitely did not work (although AIGLX works great on my workstation, which has an NVidia card).

But, Kano's XGL/compiz script does work on my laptop, and comes complete with the Compiz Settings Manager (similar to beryl-manager) and CWDG Themer (similar to emerald).

Switches for "install-compiz.sh": "-u" to uninstall XGL, "-d" to disable XGL, and "-e" to enable XGL.

jbs1136 - 15.10.2006, 19:05 Uhr
Titel: RE: Kano

I had this working in the Easter RC4 but can't get it to work in 2006-1-RC4. Any suggestions?

John

jbs1136 - 16.10.2006, 16:25 Uhr
Titel: RE: Kano

Well, I don't know what my problem is but I finally have it working. I installed, uninstalled, re-installed fglrx, reinstalled compiz . I have done this about 3 times now. On the last go it worked. Even the number pad works as it should. Sometimes being stubborn pays off.

Thanks Kano.

John

eco2geek - 20.10.2006, 02:10 Uhr
Titel:

The problem with Xgl/compiz (on my ATI Radeon Xpress 200M) is that, out of all the packages that Kano's script installs, all but four are now in the regular Debian Sid archives.

(libsvg-cairo1 and libsvg1 (from http://cairographics.org ) and xgl and cgwd-themes (from http://www5.autistici.org/debian-xgl/ ) are the four.)

However, after installing the packages and putting the command to start Xgl into /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, and restarting, the accelerated OpenGL rendering provided by the proprietary fglrx driver is no longer there (which you can see by running the "fglrxinfo" command in a console). Instead, it's being replaced with Mesa, and complains about not being able to find the "XFree86-DRI" extension. (Then it usually crashes.)

Hopefully, xgl and cairo will be in Sid soon.

<edit>
The fix to make Xgl stable with fglrx is right there in Kano's script (some day he'll have to write a book named "Secrets of the Universe") -- add "export LIBGL_DRIVERS_PATH=/usr/lib/dri" to the top of /etc/init.d/kdm.

The next problem was that the compiz* packages in Sid didn't do anything in KDE other than make kwin disappear. This was solved by removing them (as well as "gset-compiz"), and installing the "quinncvs" compiz package from the "autistici.org" repo. Now it all works again.

jbs1136 - 20.10.2006, 08:27 Uhr
Titel:

eco2geek,

So how do I get it to run so I don't receive "XFree86-DRI" missing. I have compiz running and working but this is what stops me from running googleearth.

John

eco2geek - 20.10.2006, 11:06 Uhr
Titel:

<edit> Erase wrong answer and try again.

jbs1136 -- The reliable way would be to disable Xgl when you run Google Earth. (You can do that manually, by editing /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc, or if you're using Kano's "install-compiz" script, use the "-d" switch.)

Assuming you're using the fglrx driver, you could try using the command

LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/fglrx/libGL.so.1.2.xlibmesa googleearth

(or whatever version of libGL.so you have there -- use tab completion!) to start it, but it'll probably still crash.

jbs1136 - 20.10.2006, 19:59 Uhr
Titel:

eco2geek,

Thanks for the help. It is getting too complicated for me. I like compiz and want to keep using it. I will just forget about googleearth for now. If I have to have it I can use it from Windows.

Thanks again,

john

eco2geek - 21.10.2006, 06:24 Uhr
Titel: AIGLX on nvidia is so much better

Kano pointed out that, with Xgl running, you don't get direct rendering. (Which seems odd, but the output of "glxinfo" confirms it.) So, you get a 3D desktop but no 3D apps.

Not to mention that Xgl is very flaky.

AIGLX+Beryl (or compiz, if you prefer) is so much better than Xgl+compiz -- you get direct rendering; it's easier to enable and disable than Xgl; it's built into X.org.

What I don't quite understand is that Fedora's site says certain ATI cards support AIGLX. However, according to the unofficial ATI Linux driver wiki, the proprietary ATI driver doesn't support the "composite" extension, which (with the nvidia driver, at least) has to be enabled for AIGLX to work.

Anyway, I spent some time looking through Kano's script and various how-to's on installing Xgl+compiz, in order to figure out how to do it manually. I don't know if it'll still work on a fully dist-upgraded Kanotix, but Kano's script is really quite good.

jbs1136 - 21.10.2006, 23:07 Uhr
Titel: RE: AIGLX on nvidia is so much better

I have read somewhere (a link I followed that took me to a site where someone named quinn was taking beryl as a branch to compiz. I must admit that I don't really understand the whole thing. Do I have to run xgl to have compiz? If I have compiz working does that mean that I have xgl thus I don't have direct rendering. The last I heard beryl was only working for nvidia cards so far. I guess I will wait until it is ready for ati cards and then give it a try. Is it supposed to be a "better" compiz or what?

Thanks for your patience. You are being very helpful.

john