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Hardware - HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX

anthonws - 27.08.2006, 10:55 Uhr
Titel: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Hello to all,

I'm using Kanotix with a NX7010 laptop.
Since I changed to the fglrx driver something strange happend.

After the driver installation image get's fuzzy (very fuzzy), like a refresh rate problem.
Only with a drastic change in screen refresh rate I can get a normal (solid) image.

The problem is, for an example, if I want to run a game (any game) in full screen, image disappears (blank screen).
The only solution is to restart X (ctrl+alt+backspace).
Even going to tty1 is unuseful because text is unreadable.

In windowed mode I can run normaly any game (3D or 2D).

I have the latest BIOS, available in HP, for system and vga card.

Can anyone help me with this?

Thnak you very much,
Anthon.

Here is the needed info:

-Xorg - version

X Window System Version 7.0.0
Release Date: 21 December 2005
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0, Release 7.0
Build Operating System:Linux 2.6.17-1-686 i686
Current Operating System: Linux Shadow 2.6.17.9-slh-up-1 #1 PREEMPT Sat Aug 19 09:36:03 CEST 2006 i686
Build Date: 16 March 2006

- lspci

ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R250 [Mobility FireGL 9000] (rev 01)

- fglrxinfo

display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.2)

- xorg.conf

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
Option "DPMS" "true"
VendorName "LGP"
ModelName "LGP0000"
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3 # Warning: This may fry old Monitors
VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0 # Very conservative. May flicker.
ModeLine "1280x800" 68.56 1280 1336 1472 1664 800 801 804 824 -Hsync +Vsync
EndSection

Section "Device"
Option "RenderAccel" "1"
### Available Driver options are:-
# sw_cursor is needed for some ati and radeon cards
#Option "sw_cursor"
#Option "hw_cursor"
#Option "NoAccel"
#Option "ShowCache"
#Option "ShadowFB"
#Option "UseFBDev"
#Option "Rotate"
Identifier "Card0"
# The following line is auto-generated by KNOPPIX mkxf86config
Driver "fglrx"
Option "no_accel" "no"
Option "no_dri" "no"
Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no"
Option "VideoOverlay" "on"
Option "OpenGLOverlay" "off"
Option "MonitorLayout" "TMDS,NONE"
Option "ForceMonitors" "notv"
VendorName "All"
BoardName "All"

EndSection
piper - 27.08.2006, 13:47 Uhr
Titel: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Try

ALT+CTL+F1 (log in as root)
INIT 3
apt-get update
update-scripts-kanotix.sh
install-fglrx-debian.sh
Swynndla - 28.08.2006, 00:25 Uhr
Titel: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
anthonws, a while ago I had similar problems to you ... I've got a similar card to yours ... lspci:
ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE] (Secondary) (rev 01)

and install-fglrx-debian.sh wouldn't fix it. This is what I did to fix it (with the help of the kind folks on #kanotix on irc):
Code:
apt-get insteall mesa-utils

... then see if I had direct rendering turned on:
Code:
glxinfo | grep direct

I didn't, so I removed everything to do with fglrx ... (needed to do "apt-get remove --purge xxxxxx" several times for different xxxxxx's related to fglrx). Then I did:
Code:
apt-get install libgl1-mesa-dri

and changed:
Driver "fglrx"
to:
Driver "radeon"
in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
... then restarted X with Ctrl-Alt-Backspace
... and everything was good and I had direct rendering.

And the cool thing was, I didn't need any 3rd-party binary drivers for my old ATI card, as the "dri" driver is open source!
piper - 28.08.2006, 02:33 Uhr
Titel: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Yes, true, mesa, but, depending on what games you play, mesa won't do, I too have ATI.
anthonws - 28.08.2006, 20:55 Uhr
Titel:
Hello!

Thank you for your answers and sorry for my late one...

Piper, I have already the latest fglrx driver, installed with kanotix script.
And my system is weekly dist-upgrade and so on and on.


Swynndla, I'm aware that a open source driver exists (it comes originaly with every Kanotix distro).
But Piper is right, there are still many games that require the ATI offcial driver.

Still no chance...

I'll be giving news.

Thanks to all,
Anthon.
piper - 28.08.2006, 21:03 Uhr
Titel:
This tells me you don't have the fglrx driver installed

display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.4.2)



should read like this

display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: RADEON 9800 Pro Generic <--> or your card
OpenGL version string: 2.0.6011 (8.28.8)

Please run the script in my sig to install fglrx or run what I posted in my first post on this thread
anthonws - 29.08.2006, 21:27 Uhr
Titel:
Hello!

Thanks again for your help.

Well, you were right.
Somehow the mesa driver was active and not the fglrx...

I ran (again, since I was already using the ATI 8.28.Cool and the problem with fglrxinfo was solved.

-----------------------------------------------------------------
display: :0.0 screen: 0
OpenGL vendor string: ATI Technologies Inc.
OpenGL renderer string: MOBILITY/RADEON 9200 DDR Generic
OpenGL version string: 1.3.1091 (X4.3.0-8.28.Cool
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Now back to the original problem.

FInally I found the answer in this wiki from Ubuntu:

http://wiki.cchtml.com/index.php/Ubuntu ... #xorg.conf

It seems that my laptop (HP NX7010) has a refresh rate problem with the ATI driver after the 8.19.xxx version.

Unluckly the refresh rate presented in the wiki doesn´t work... The image gets fuzzy again...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Section "Monitor"
# Warning: This may fry old Monitors
# Very conservative. May flicker.
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "LGP"
ModelName "LGP0000"
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3
VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0
Modeline "1280x800" 70.875 1280 1320 1352 1456 800 801 804 820 +hsync +vsync
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Back to my old refresh rate setting...

-----------------------------------------------------------------
Section "Monitor"
# Warning: This may fry old Monitors
# Very conservative. May flicker.
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "LGP"
ModelName "LGP0000"
HorizSync 31.5 - 64.3
VertRefresh 50.0 - 75.0
ModeLine "1280x800" 68.6 1280 1336 1472 1664 800 801 804 824 -hsync +vsync
Option "DPMS" "true"
EndSection
------------------------------------------------------------------

The only problem is running games at fullscreen.
They probably apply a diferent timing and bang!!! Auf den Arm nehmen

Thanks for everything.

I'll be posting my progress.

Anthon.
piper - 29.08.2006, 21:50 Uhr
Titel:
Your welcome Winken let us know how you progress
Swynndla - 31.08.2006, 08:40 Uhr
Titel: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Swynndla hat folgendes geschrieben::
... and everything was good and I had direct rendering.


I spoke too soon ... I put my Radeon 9200 SE in another pc, and
glxinfo | grep direct
direct rendering: No

... I can't get it to work Traurig
piper - 31.08.2006, 10:58 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Swynndla

Try my sig Winken
Swynndla - 31.08.2006, 13:17 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
piper ... if you mean h2's script, nah it didn't work, in fact it turns out that fglrx is worse for my card than mesa.
piper - 31.08.2006, 13:22 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Swynndla

Sorry to hear that Traurig

What do you mean by "worse" ?

What happens ?
Swynndla - 01.09.2006, 07:31 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
Small white squares on kde login screen, and when I log in it freezes the whole pc. I had to restore my root partition with rdiff-backup.

Apparently, my card (ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 SE]) is notorious for having driver troubles. I've read on other forums that something the open source mesa drivers work, and if it works then it's suggested that the user doesn't change anything ever.
Swynndla - 04.09.2006, 00:04 Uhr
Titel: RE: Re: RE: HP NX7010 with Ati 9200 and FGLRX
I swapped the Radeon 9200 with a nvidia I had in another pc. The nvidia drivers installed no problem. Then in the other pc that now has the Radeon 9200, I used h2's excellent script to dist-upgrade and install the fglrx drivers, and it worked! ... phew!
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